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From: alan dransfield
To: Barry Khan
Cc: headteacher Valeview
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Vale View Primary School
Dear Mr Khan
I acknowledge and thank you for your following letter and I do thank you for the confirmation that you are considering my request to visit the Vale View school for a co-
There is nothing in your letter which would cause me to withdraw my claim the Vale View school is operating in a Legal Void.
with thanks
Yours sincerely
Alan M Dransfield
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Barry Khan <barry.khan@stockport.gov.uk> wrote:
Dear Mr Dransfield
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· Email dated 20 th January 2012
As requested in your e-
‘I have been informed that the football pitch has been built to Sport England Standards as part of the original contract. All the drainage has been installed as the plans previously sent and all works including alterations to the existing outfalls have been completed”
With regard to your request on the 4 th January -
The issue with regard to producing the ‘as built’ drawings for this school, is that I have been informed that we do not have a copy of the plans on CD. I have been informed that the School only holds paper copies of the drawings (as opposed to the plans for the Council’s Fred Perry House which we have electronically). However I understand that you are in communication with the Council’s Freedom of Information team and if you wish to request a review of any response to any FOI request, then please can you contact them directly. You have raised issues with myself with regard to the legal position of the School and I have addressed those concerns. I can confirm from the information that has been provided to me that I am happy to confirm that the school does not operate in a ‘legal void’ as suggested.
IT BEGGARS BELIEF THE AS BUILT DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN RETAINED IN HARD COPY ONLY.
I can confirm that I have been informed that all the details with regard to the drainage have been built as shown on the ‘as built’ drawings. Again there seems to be some confusion as you state that there is no physical evidence on the site of a Control Panel, however I have been informed that there is in fact a warning panel located in the school.
THE CONTROL PANEL IS/SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO BE INSTALLED OUTDOORS TO ENABLE THE FLASHING WARMING LIGHTS TO BE SEEN.
THE DRAINAGE DRAWINGS PROVIDED TO ME ARE "PROPOSALS ONLY"
With regard to your request for gas monitoring I understand that this has already been answered under your FOI request reference 4873 and a copy of the Site Completion Report has been sent to you. In addition I understand that additional information regarding risk assessments have been sent to you with regard to your FOI request 4436 including a report entitled “Harcourt Street, Site won soil Verification.”
RISK ASSESSMENT HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED TO ME.
With regard to the fishing pond, the attached link shows that there was an existing drainage system which was installed in 1983 and approved by Sports England, which outfalls to the existing pond. The new scheme plans show that the football fields surface water only now drains to the pond to maintain the system. I have been informed that it is incorrect to state that any of the car park drains to this and this is not what the plan shows. In addition the following documents show that the Environment Agency and United Utilities were consulted regarding the proposed surface water runoff:
THE CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS APPLIED TO THE FOOTBALL PITCH WILL BE DRAINED INTO THE POND WHICH IS NOT ECO FRIENDLY.
http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/mvmedrms.asp?DCNumber=DC024357
Appropriate ecological assessments were carried out prior to the development (Badgers, Great Crested Newt etc ) – and these documents can be found at the above link. In addition the pond is still used for fishing and we have not received any complaints that the eco system has been affected. The Environmental Health Department have been notified and approved the measures on the site.
Also, as stated previously the lightning protection system for this school has been installed in accordance with the B.S standards and successfully tested 12 months following installation.
YOU FAILED TO QUOTE THE RELEVANT BS STANDARDS,HENCE PLEASE ALLOW ME. THE RELEVANT STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO THE BUILD WERE BS6651 WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN REPLACED BY BS-
IN THE EVENT YOUR SCHOOL IS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING AND SUBSEQUENT FIRE THE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE WOULD BE REVOKED DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF LIGHTNING RISK ASSESSMENT.
I am sorry that you consider my previous response was inappropriate and that you wish to make a complaint about me. I can therefore confirm as requested that I am a solicitor and a member of the Law Society. Similarly I would also be grateful if you could inform the Council of your professional qualifications, current employment etc so that the Council can consider the appropriateness of arranging a meeting as you have requested to discuss technical points regarding the construction of a school.
IN REGARD TO MY PERSONAL DETAILS AND PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, THEY ARE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT
AND I DO NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE ANY PERSONAL DETAILS OTHER THAN MY NAME.
I do however hope that the above and the answers to the previous requests shows how the school and the Council have taken health and safety matters very seriously with regard to the School. You have made repeated requests for a number of items which have previously been answered and the Council respectfully asks you to reconsider the number of requests you make in the future about this building as the Council is concerned with regard to the amount of time that is being spent answering repeated requests with regard to this matter that is diverting resources from other matters. If the issues that you raised uncovered serious concerns about the construction or operation of the school then the Council would have taken a very different view to these requests but this is not the position.
I HAVE MADE REPEATED FOIA REQUESTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE THE SOUGHT AFTER DATA.
THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS LETTER WHICH CONVINCES ME THAT YOU OR THE SBC OR THE SCHOOL ARE TAKING h7s ISSUES SERIOUSLY.
If you wish to make a complaint against the Council as you have requested, then you can follow the Council’s complaints procedure which can be found at:
http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/councildemocracy/yourcouncil/complaintsabouservices/corporatecomplaints/complaintsprocedure
This attached link has a ‘Compliments and Complaints Leaflet’ attached which shows how you can make a complaint against the Council. If you wish to follow this procedure please complete the attached form and send it to the Improvement & Performance Officer (Complaints), who is nominated by the Chief Executive who will deal with the complaint under Stage 2 of the procedure.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLAINT DETAILS AND I WILL IN DUE COURSE BE SUBMITTING A FORMAL COMPLAINT.
Kind regards
Barry Khan